Tuesday, January 09, 2007

The scandal of the Evangelical mind

Joe Carter at EvangelicalOutpost is hosting an Athiesm Appreciation week in honor of his favorite "bizarre worldview". He shows his appreciation by posting some of the most transparently risible exposes of the untenable nature of materialism that an athiest is likely to see on the internet. This "proof" of the falseness of the materialist worldview has to hold a record for the silliest attempt at logic since Zeno proved that an arrow will never reach its target:

Earlier I stated that we should reject any presupposition that leads us to a belief that is logically impossible. If that is the case then we have sufficient reason to reject naturalism or to reject logic; we can't keep both. For materialism states that:

1. Anything that exists is made of matter.
2. All matter is one; everything that exists is one.
3. Doxastic states are composed of matter and can exist.
4. Beliefs are doxastic states.
5. A belief can be true.
6. A belief can be false.
7. Since matter is one and beliefs are made of matter, all beliefs are one.
8. All beliefs are both true and false.

Therefore, the presupposition that matter is all that exists is both true and false at the same time. But since that leads to a logical contradiction we must give it up (or give up on logic).

For more of this scintillating logic, read his fascinating take on free will.


Blogger Brit said...

..."Queue Eee Dee, my friends, Queue Eeeeeeee Dee."

At last, a man willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with Orrin Judd and strike a blow for the dying art of Crackpot Sophistry...

January 10, 2007 5:16 AM  
Blogger Harry Eagar said...

Us rednecks are convinced. Us'ns don't even know what doxastic means, so he must be smarter nor us.

January 10, 2007 11:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You besmirch poor Zeno, you reprobate. His "proof" ended up requiring a significant advance in mathematics to resolve. You can trace the essence of calculus to directly back to the Zeno paradox. That's how I was taught and it is therefore the correct and proper point of view.

January 11, 2007 11:07 AM  
Blogger Duck said...


Yes, but it is obviously false. Just as we know that the "proof" that bees can't fly is false, because we can see bees fly. We just need a better understanding of aerodynamics to know how they fly.

January 11, 2007 11:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Duck: Exactly why logical arguments based on reason will never succeed in disproving G-d's existence when His existence is manifest.

January 11, 2007 3:58 PM  
Blogger Brit said...

That which is manifest cannot be disproven.
God's existence is manifest.
Therefore his existence cannot be disproven.
Therefore God exists.

Queue Eeee Deeee....

January 12, 2007 2:03 AM  
Blogger Duck said...


Wrong? What is manifest is the universe. What is not manifest is the truth of the proposition that the universe was created by a "him".

January 12, 2007 8:12 AM  
Blogger Duck said...

Correction: Wrong!

January 12, 2007 8:14 AM  

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